tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12180121.post113033455411877414..comments2023-10-17T08:48:04.114-04:00Comments on Not Shady, Just Fierce: Morning Edition - 10/26/05Anonymoushttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10988868216271744389noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12180121.post-1130344669480422652005-10-26T12:37:00.000-04:002005-10-26T12:37:00.000-04:00Look you button pushin' two-bit hookah...after tak...Look you button pushin' two-bit hookah...after taking statements like, "Feed the children" and turning them into an eat-my-nipples fest, I don't expect you to get on any high horses. As for being the flower girl at any wedding of mine - forget it! I'd rather tongue kiss Satan - besides, the last thing I need is a 6 foot blonde walking the isle before I make my grand entrance at 5'7"! Final Answer: Adults should share the same rights across the board; your religious beliefs should be exercised personally and pretty much privately and laws cannot/should not be written to accommodate any ONE religious, racial, or gender group. ...and the next time you start some shyt, I'm gonna kick you where your allege your baby's daddy hasn't been in a while!Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10988868216271744389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12180121.post-1130340250086732142005-10-26T11:24:00.000-04:002005-10-26T11:24:00.000-04:00For the record... some factual background on Texas...For the record... some factual background on Texas' proposition 2:<BR/><BR/>Actual language of Proposition 2<BR/><BR/>SECTION 1. Article I, Texas Constitution, is amended by adding Section 32 to read as follows:<BR/><BR/>Sec. 32. (a) Marriage in this state shall consist only of the union of one man and one woman. <BR/><BR/>(b) This state or a political subdivision of this state may not create or recognize any legal status identical or similar to marriage. <BR/><BR/>SECTION 2. (which would NOT be included in the Constitution) This state recognizes that through the designation of guardians, the appointment of agents, and the use of private contracts, persons may adequately and properly appoint guardians and arrange rights relating to hospital visitation, property, and the entitlement to proceeds of life insurance policies without the existence of any legal status identical or similar to marriage. <BR/><BR/>Section 3. This proposed constitutional amendment shall be submitted to the voters at an election to be held November 8, 2005. The ballot shall be printed to permit voting for or against the proposition: “The constitutional amendment providing that marriage in this state consists only of the union of one man and one woman and prohibiting this state or a political subdivision of this state from creating or recognizing any legal status identical or similar to marriage.”<BR/><BR/>Background: Texas law clearly defines marriage as between one man and one woman. This amendment would put the same language in the Texas Constitution. It would also prohibit the state, cities and counties from creating or recognizing any legal status identical or similar to marriage, regardless of the gender of the participants. <BR/>The legislative act that includes the amendment also includes wording that says that persons may still use private contacts to grant certain rights to others without creating a legal status similar to marriage. However, this additional wording would not become a part of the Constitution or of any state law even if the amendment passes. Therefore, it carries little or no legal weight. <BR/><BR/>The Fort Worth Star-Telegram says, <BR/><BR/>Leave it at the altar <BR/>The very first sentence of the Texas Legislative Council's background information on Proposition 2 states why this constitutional amendment is unnecessary: "Current state law prohibits the issuance of a marriage license for the marriage of persons of the same sex."<BR/>The Legislature passed the Defense of Marriage Act in 2003. Voters should not ignore the redundancy of this proposed amendment, although many of its supporters do.<BR/>As unnecessary as Proposition 2 may be in real terms, it is not meaningless, at least not for those politicians who are trying to prove their ultraconservative credentials to Republican voters who, for all intents, decide statewide elections in the March primaries.<BR/>Skeptics might be justified in calling this the "Gov. Rick Perry Re-Election Amendment," given the highly publicized bill-signing ceremony that Perry's people put together on June 5 at a Fort Worth church school so the governor could demonstrate his commitment to the sanctity of heterosexual marriage. Constitutional amendments do not require the governor's signature.<BR/>Proponents of this initiative attempt to justify their support by wrapping it in terms that evoke motherhood and Old Glory. However, all the lullabies and red-white-and-blue bunting in the world won't mask what Proposition 2 would achieve if voters are deluded enough to approve it: state-sanctioned discrimination.<BR/>At the very least, the politicians who are campaigning on this particular platform could be honest. They don't want gay and lesbian Texans to be afforded the same civil rights that heterosexuals receive just by saying, "I do" and filing a state-issued license with a county clerk.<BR/>Voters should recall that Perry's bill-signing ceremony was the occasion on which he suggested that gay and lesbian veterans should move somewhere else if they wish to get married, because Texas would never recognize same-sex unions.<BR/>He might as well have said: "Thank you for your service to your country. Now go away."<BR/>Amendment supporters argue that same-sex couples do have access to the same rights that are afforded heterosexuals who marry, and that passage of this amendment won't change that. But homosexual couples can only exercise those rights if they spend lots of money hiring lawyers to draw up contracts that outline property rights, inheritance and survivorship issues.<BR/>How in the farthest stretch of any imagination is that fair? How can that possibly meet the democratic principle of equality that is a hallmark of American government?<BR/>Typical of the wording of constitutional amendments, Proposition 2 confuses some people when they read "prohibiting this state or any political subdivision of this state from creating or recognizing any legal status identical or similar to marriage."<BR/>What does that mean? It means, even if it isn't stated plainly, that the state, counties and cities would be prohibited from creating or recognizing any legal status afforded to same-sex couples that is identical or similar to heterosexual marriage.<BR/>An even shorter version: No civil unions for gays and lesbians in Texas.<BR/>Proposition 2 is an ugly amendment. At its core is discrimination and an unfounded fear that gay people who are committed to long-term relationships in some way threaten the institution of traditional marriage.<BR/>Texas voters need to defeat it on Nov. 8.<BR/><BR/>The Star-Telegram recommends a no vote on Proposition 2.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10988868216271744389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12180121.post-1130337899769734762005-10-26T10:44:00.000-04:002005-10-26T10:44:00.000-04:00Caspar, let me preface my diatribe by saying, I do...Caspar, let me preface my diatribe by saying, I don’t have any intention on sharing in an institution that has a success rate of less than 50%, nor do I wish to mirror the straight community in how I fashion the structure of my relationships. That said, you’re DEAD wrong. Gays shouldn’t be subjected to ALMOST the same rights as their straight counterparts – especially when we pay the SAME taxes, etc. as our straight counterparts. Moreover, it’s insane to ask gays in committed relationships to give up their right to their benefits such as social security – as shitty as that system is – and the right to make medical decision for their partners in the event of an emergency. As much as some folks hate for me to make the comparison – I feel the gay marriage issue directly mirrors the issue of interracial marriage. Back in the fifties and maybe even early sixties, blacks and whites were not allowed to marry and today that notion seems to out in left field, it’s inconceivable. EQUAL rights are equal right honey… “almost the same” rights doesn’t cut it for anyone – gay, straight, black or white. One of the reasons I’ve chosen to highlight the religious’ right apparent disdain of homosexuals is because it goes against the very teaching of our Lord that includes love and tolerance. No one group can achieve harmony, understanding and open dialogue without love and tolerance. <BR/><BR/>As for the HIV question – no, I wouldn’t have my partners take an at-home test. I get tested and do what I can to protect myself. Although I would encourage them to be tested and share openly, I don’t feel it necessary to pressure my partners about sharing this with me. I protect myself and hope for the best. Now, if they specifically share their status – and it’s positive – our sexual interaction can become dicey. (Wifey, you remember the story….)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10988868216271744389noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12180121.post-1130336368491627342005-10-26T10:19:00.001-04:002005-10-26T10:19:00.001-04:00Caspar, you ask: "Please tell me why gay marriage ...Caspar, you ask: "Please tell me why gay marriage is so important to the gay community if you can get nearly the same rights if you register as domestic partners and give each other healthy care proxy and power of attorney rights?"<BR/><BR/>Well, the Texas amendment would REMOVE our ability to do just that. It's not just "no marriage," it's "ha ha, you can't even protect your household anymore."<BR/><BR/>That's pretty damn mean. <BR/><BR/>Oh, and why should we have to pay a bundle in lawyer's fees to get what you get automatically? <BR/><BR/>The Biblical perspective is irrelevant to CIVIL marriage, which is what we're talking about here - not what churches do. And I'm curious what you think is a "Constitutional" basis for marriage.John Whitesidehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11043220283018147707noreply@blogger.com